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SSD
I'm thinking of adding a SSD as a boot drive and want to know what everyone thinks of the one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227461
Thanks, Bob
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227461
Thanks, Bob
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Thats a great drive Bob but look at the kingston drives they have a new 30gig boot drive out for less than a 100 bucks.
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Thanks Steve, I'll look into the Kingston line.
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no problem bob anytime
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Steve, I just ordered this one. $84 after $30 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139149
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139149
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Great Deal wow, I'm sure you will be happy with it.
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Thaks for pointing me in the right direction.
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bob2701 wrote:Thaks for pointing me in the right direction.
Are there any pit falls I should be aware of when installing?
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Thanks I'll check it out.
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Sorry i had missed this thread. :D
Seems smd put you on the right path.
Is 30GB enough for a boot drive though ? Just thinking from my needs it would have to be 128GB or higher , but as long as you have your main needed launch programs on it then anything else can be installed on other storage.
4hams is running a SSD Raid 0 ,,, he might be able to give you some real pointers i think.
One thing i would say is DO NOT DE FRAGMENT THEM !!! is takes cycles off the life.
McT
Seems smd put you on the right path.
Is 30GB enough for a boot drive though ? Just thinking from my needs it would have to be 128GB or higher , but as long as you have your main needed launch programs on it then anything else can be installed on other storage.
4hams is running a SSD Raid 0 ,,, he might be able to give you some real pointers i think.
One thing i would say is DO NOT DE FRAGMENT THEM !!! is takes cycles off the life.
McT
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McT, well I guess I'll find out if 30G is enough for the boot drive. I wouldn't think Win7 needs more than 15-20G and I will be using 2 WD Black 1T's with it. I may partition the 1T's to 4 500M.
Thanks for the heads up on the no defrag, I quickly looked at the post Steve pointed out and he said the same.
I just ordered it today so I won't see it until middle of next week with the holiday on Monday so I have time for some reading.
Good luck with the new wheels and have a good weekend.
Thanks for the heads up on the no defrag, I quickly looked at the post Steve pointed out and he said the same.
I just ordered it today so I won't see it until middle of next week with the holiday on Monday so I have time for some reading.
Good luck with the new wheels and have a good weekend.
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bob2701 wrote:McT, well I guess I'll find out if 30G is enough for the boot drive. I wouldn't think Win7 needs more than 15-20G and I will be using 2 WD Black 1T's with it. I may partition the 1T's to 4 500M.
Thanks for the heads up on the no defrag, I quickly looked at the post Steve pointed out and he said the same.
I just ordered it today so I won't see it until middle of next week with the holiday on Monday so I have time for some reading.
Good luck with the new wheels and have a good weekend.
Your Welcome bob. :hahapirate:
Sounds like an interesting plan you have. I really wanted SSD this year. I can get one ,, similar to the price of the ones your buying , but i would have to completely revise my windows. Nothing other than the OS and KIS ,, with maybe a few copy programs etc. But it would have to be really light.
What about keep the 2x 1TB WD blacks and Raid 0 them ? Then you get sensational performance all round without the worry off a OS drive fail. All your other apps used on this raid would run equally as fast.
Just some fruity ideas mate.
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Hi
Raiding SSD's will show no return in terms of performance.
Unless you have 3 or more drives.
Even then for most users you would need a seperate controller too.
30 GB is more than ample for boot drive.
Here the idea is to have the OS only on the boot drive.
Defragging SSD's is a good thing.
But you have have to have a program that recognises SSD's.
Perform "Consolidate free space" or its equivilant.
You do not defrag that often either.
To not do this will lose you performance, which in my opinion outwieghs any shortening of life span.
With an OS like Windows 7, there is no need to partition HDD's.
Even 1 TB.
You could in fact, lose a tad in overall performance.
Currently I have raided SSD's & HDD's.
SSD's are not as stable as HDD's in RAID0. (My experience!)
In terms of cost you could have at least 4 1 TB HDD's RAID0.
Which is quicker than single or dual raided SSD's.
Though the SSD access can not be bettered.
The latest boards with the 6 GB capability of course will most likely change all this.
Raiding SSD's will show no return in terms of performance.
Unless you have 3 or more drives.
Even then for most users you would need a seperate controller too.
30 GB is more than ample for boot drive.
Here the idea is to have the OS only on the boot drive.
Defragging SSD's is a good thing.
But you have have to have a program that recognises SSD's.
Perform "Consolidate free space" or its equivilant.
You do not defrag that often either.
To not do this will lose you performance, which in my opinion outwieghs any shortening of life span.
With an OS like Windows 7, there is no need to partition HDD's.
Even 1 TB.
You could in fact, lose a tad in overall performance.
Currently I have raided SSD's & HDD's.
SSD's are not as stable as HDD's in RAID0. (My experience!)
In terms of cost you could have at least 4 1 TB HDD's RAID0.
Which is quicker than single or dual raided SSD's.
Though the SSD access can not be bettered.
The latest boards with the 6 GB capability of course will most likely change all this.
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Thanks for the information. I thought I would have time this week end to do some reading on the subject but that didn't happen. Maybe tomorrow.
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I have been very busy this last week and even though I have the SSD, it is still in the box. I hope to get to it this week. My last build I had Raid0 and every time there was a hiccup it went into verify mode and took forever. I may revisit this but not sure now.
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Interesting my friend. I understand about you being busy mate , its just one of those things. :D
There are problems with Raid 0 , its how they are. Raid 0+1 is better but slower performance.
Maybe as mentioned a Raid 0 for storage ? Rather than main os which can be the ssd.
Keep me posted
There are problems with Raid 0 , its how they are. Raid 0+1 is better but slower performance.
Maybe as mentioned a Raid 0 for storage ? Rather than main os which can be the ssd.
Keep me posted
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If I use Raid at all it will be for the storage. Enjoy the remainder of the weekend.
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Be careful.
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Oh go on man and raid that puppy!!!
Live on the wild side and get 'er done. What OS are you using bob?
I have been running raids for a few years now and have never had an issue other than a few drives dying on me. BUT that had nothing to do with the Raid 0 setup just bad drives...
Live on the wild side and get 'er done. What OS are you using bob?
I have been running raids for a few years now and have never had an issue other than a few drives dying on me. BUT that had nothing to do with the Raid 0 setup just bad drives...
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Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.
The problem I had was with Vista and either a drive starting to go bad or some corrupt data. Every couple of days I would notice the machine running very slow and the HD LED on solid. I couldn't figure out what was causing it until one time when I rebooted I noticed the Raid was in "Verify" mode. With the 2 1T drives it took about 4 hours to verify and never listed a problem. During the verify it was just like using an old XT PC. I may try it again for the storage drives and see what happens.
The problem I had was with Vista and either a drive starting to go bad or some corrupt data. Every couple of days I would notice the machine running very slow and the HD LED on solid. I couldn't figure out what was causing it until one time when I rebooted I noticed the Raid was in "Verify" mode. With the 2 1T drives it took about 4 hours to verify and never listed a problem. During the verify it was just like using an old XT PC. I may try it again for the storage drives and see what happens.
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Hi
bob2701,
Don't bother with Raid controller program.
If using Raid0, then there is no gain anyway.
As it is "non" redundant.
(Not true Raid)...
bob2701,
Don't bother with Raid controller program.
If using Raid0, then there is no gain anyway.
As it is "non" redundant.
(Not true Raid)...
Last edited by zebadee on Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:48 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Added "non" to make post accurate... lol!)
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