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Post by bob2701 on Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:32 am

zebadee wrote:Hi smile
bob2701,
Don't bother with Raid controller program.
If using Raid0, then there is no gain anyway.
As it is redundant.
(Not true Raid)... lol!

I thought it was Raid 1 that was redundant??
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Post by zebadee on Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:46 pm

bob2701 wrote:
zebadee wrote:Hi smile
bob2701,
Don't bother with Raid controller program.
If using Raid0, then there is no gain anyway.
As it is redundant.
(Not true Raid)... lol!

I thought it was Raid 1 that was redundant??

Hi smile
Sorry left out the "non" bit, see edit.

"A RAID 0 (also known as a stripe set or striped volume) splits data evenly across two or more disks (striped) with no parity information for redundancy. It is important to note that RAID 0 was not one of the original RAID levels and provides no data redundancy. RAID 0 is normally used to increase performance, although it can also be used as a way to create a small number of large virtual disks out of a large number of small physical ones."

Check out this link.
http://www.acnc.com/raid.html
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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:35 pm

Thanks Zeb.
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Post by bob2701 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:33 pm

Well I finally found some time to set up a 30G SSD with Win7 Ultimate. First thing is 30G is really cutting it close. Win7 with all updates, MSE, and Ccleaner loaded and the numbers are as follows.

Capacity: 27.8G
Used: 20.0G
Free: 7.79G

Boot was 50 seconds and shutdown was 9 seconds.

Have not done any other testing yet and I want to take a HDD and set it up the same and time the boot and shutdown.
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Re: SSD

Post by smduff on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:51 pm

do you have a board that supports 3/6gb per sec? My boot up times are a lot faster than that
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Post by bob2701 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:23 pm

I have a older Gigabyte X38 motherboard but I trying to find the disk that came with it. Right now it is using the drivers from Win7. I'll have to check the specs on the board.
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Post by smduff on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:58 pm

oh yeah it doesn't support the 6gb/s you need an upgrade to utilize the SSD bob, what CPU do you have I'll try to find a board that will work better for you.
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Post by bob2701 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:23 pm

Right now I have the Intel Q6600. I'm trying to work out so I can do an upgrade but the timing is not right.
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Re: SSD

Post by McstylisT on Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:37 am

That processor has more than enough grunt.

Keep the current board , just look for a 6gb/s pci card you can add to your vacant pci slot on your board. Probably be much cheaper.

if your going to change the board then might as well changed the whole system.

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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:02 am

Thanks Craig, I'm hoping to change out the whole system but there are other pressing matters now that need the cash. I will look into adding the 6gb card for now.
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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:46 am

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Re: SSD

Post by 4hams on Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:24 pm

Hey Bob that card should work great as long as your motherboard has an empty PCIE-x4 slot available.
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Re: SSD

Post by Vinman on Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:04 am

I will wait till the prices are more in line before I ever think of buying one
and will be looking at 128gb SSD to start with nothing smaller would be worth installing JMHO!
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Re: SSD

Post by McstylisT on Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:29 am


Indeed , thats what i was thinking of Bob. Just a real cheaper way for people to get the bandwidth on a older board. They charge a over the top premium for USB3 and SATA3 boards , when all you need is one of these and things work fine.

Just check all the cards available and read the reviews. As my experience with addon cards in the past , some are more suited to one job than another , with relation to brand and spec even though they seem to be the same cards. :D So good luck with that my friend.

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Re: SSD

Post by McstylisT on Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:32 am

Vinman wrote:I will wait till the prices are more in line before I ever think of buying one
and will be looking at 128gb SSD to start with nothing smaller would be worth installing JMHO!

Yeah , i am really at the same stage of though Vinny. Been so very close to getting one though. But i would want one of the better ones , 128GB or more for optimal use with all your used programs on there.

This look interesting though : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-047-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=

- Capacity: 60GB
- Controller: SandForce SF-1200
- Maximum Read: 285MB/sec
- Maximum Write: 275MB/sec
- Sustained Write: 250MB/sec
- Max I/O Per Second (IOPS): 50000 IOPS (4KB File)
- NAND Flash: Multi-Level Cell (MLC)
- Interface: SATA-II
- TRIM Support (Requires Windows 7)
- Warranty: 3 Years

They also do a 120GB version but its £279.99 thinking

I currently use a Samsung 1TB F3 for my OS drive , but i load the OS on win7 in 40 seconds. For me thats fine at this moment in time.

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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:26 pm

McstylisT wrote:
I currently use a Samsung 1TB F3 for my OS drive , but i load the OS on win7 in 40 seconds. For me thats fine at this moment in time.

McT

Craig, is that from the time you press the power button or from the Windows logo?
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Post by zebadee on Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:18 pm

bob2701 wrote:Well I finally found some time to set up a 30G SSD with Win7 Ultimate. First thing is 30G is really cutting it close. Win7 with all updates, MSE, and Ccleaner loaded and the numbers are as follows.

Capacity: 27.8G
Used: 20.0G
Free: 7.79G

Boot was 50 seconds and shutdown was 9 seconds.

Have not done any other testing yet and I want to take a HDD and set it up the same and time the boot and shutdown.



Hi smile
My Boot times is around 15 secs.
Shut down around <5 secs.
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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:23 am

zebadee wrote:
bob2701 wrote:Well I finally found some time to set up a 30G SSD with Win7 Ultimate. First thing is 30G is really cutting it close. Win7 with all updates, MSE, and Ccleaner loaded and the numbers are as follows.

Capacity: 27.8G
Used: 20.0G
Free: 7.79G

Boot was 50 seconds and shutdown was 9 seconds.

Have not done any other testing yet and I want to take a HDD and set it up the same and time the boot and shutdown.



Hi smile
My Boot times is around 15 secs.
Shut down around <5 secs.

As I asked McT, is that from the Win logo or from the time you press the power button?
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Post by zebadee on Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:59 pm

bob2701 wrote:
As I asked McT, is that from the Win logo or from the time you press the power button?

Hi smile
Cold boot.
15 secs on ave, but definitely no more than 20 ever.
From Win Logo somewhere between 3 > 5 secs.
Same as shut down.
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Post by bob2701 on Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:00 pm

Well, I removed the SSD until I upgrade my motherboard. The card I added to get 6GB added another 20 sec to the boot process so that was no help. I'll just wait for now. Thanks for all the help.
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Post by 4hams on Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:43 pm

bob2701 wrote:Well, I removed the SSD until I upgrade my motherboard. The card I added to get 6GB added another 20 sec to the boot process so that was no help. I'll just wait for now. Thanks for all the help.
Hi bob who cares about boot time. of course the card adds extra time as it has to be read by the bios.

That card with the ssd will be much faster than traditional hard drives...
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Post by bob2701 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:20 am

thanks Joel
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Post by McstylisT on Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:47 am

Hey bob , I agree those pci cards will add time to the boot as well. But this is all irrelevant really , its just a luxury.

Whats important is the results and all your getting. As mentioned the ssd will still out perform any standard drive on the market. Your still getting better performance than most of us i believe. Though a 6GB card would give it some full legs to run with.

Download HD Tune and do some benchmarks , id love to see what its been hitting.

Thats if you decide to re install it of course.

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Re: SSD

Post by bob2701 on Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:22 am

What kind of numbers should I be seeing with HD Tune??
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Post by 4hams on Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:59 am

Hang on Bob I will post some numbers.
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