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Post by bob2701 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:51 pm

I decided to upgrade my system and go with the AMD Phenom II Black X6 1090T CPU. I wanted to use my old Lian Li PC-60APlus case which is a mid size tower. Well, if I had it to do over I would have picked up a full size tower and made life a little easier. Along with the New CPU I picked up the Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 which is a great motherboard. In the near future I want to OC this build so I adder the Corsair H50 Cooler. This is what gave me problems. I didn't realize that the case fan in the rear of the Lian Li was only 80mm and I needed a 120mm spot. The front fan was 120mm but with the Hard Drive cage right behind it there was not enough room, plus the fact I wanted to use 2 Noctua P-12's as a push pull system. There was another 80mm fan on the top of the case which I ended up modifying to hold the 2 120mm and radiator from the H50. It was a tight fit but it worked out. I have attached some pictures of the process.























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Re: New Upgrade

Post by smduff on Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:12 pm

Looks great, only one thing left to do and OC the schinizal out of it.
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Post by 4hams on Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:57 pm

Hey Bob great thread and thanks for sharing with us!

The build looks fantastic. Your choice of hardware is pretty awesome. I am sure smduff can help ya with the overclock as he has the same bullet for a CPU.
Good luck and keep us updated on the overclocking.
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Post by 4hams on Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:59 pm

Hey I just noticed it is not the same CPU as duff? I was sure he had just upgraded to that CPU...

Time for another beer I guess. Duh
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by bob2701 on Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:58 am

smduff wrote:Looks great, only one thing left to do and OC the schinizal out of it.

I'm going to let it cook for a week or so and then start to learn what it can do, got a lot of reading to do. smile
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by Vinman on Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:40 pm

yep dont rush a good thing great job Bob looks really good!
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by McstylisT on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:24 am

That is a truly awesome build bob. Congrats to you my friend. I am sure your very happy and blown away with its performance. :D

With regards to the size of case , i agree its very important. Imagine the problem i had with that HTPC case , when i orignally tried my full i7 system in it with a 4870 .... lmao ROTFLMAO Not a good choice.

I went back to tower and full ATX board now. Just all round better i feel.

But this is EXACTLY what building is about. We learn something from each outing. I feel you have had a great out come this time round. Very neat and tidy , even for restricted space.

It looks tidyer than my full tower ...... lol !!! I need internal management help. Thats my downfall.

PS - I am also using the H50. Been using some basic 120mm fans but am in the process of getting some of the same Noctuas as well. They just see, to move the air much better than any of the others whilst being quiet. The Apaches are also good though.


Thanks for sharing this awesome build bob ,,, I think rep is in order for this people.

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Re: New Upgrade

Post by bob2701 on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:30 am

Thanks Craig. I'm still not completely sold on the Noctua fans. While they are indeed very quiet they don't seem to move as much air as I thought they would. I still need to do some playing...
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Post by McstylisT on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:33 am

Compared to the standard line fans , they are far superior. The fan texture and fan angles highly improves this.

But i also do know what you mean. You may be interested in something like the Apaches or Delta's. They move $hit loads of air , but do whirrr inside your case.

I guess everyone has different requirements. I want cool , but reasonably soundless. My current fans do neither ...... :dead:

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Re: New Upgrade

Post by bob2701 on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:38 am

Thanks for the info. I will wait and see how my temps do. Right now they are about 20c at idle with default settings. When I run Prime95 they go to about 60c which I believe will be too high. I guess I expected better with the H50.
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Post by McstylisT on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:47 am

bob2701 wrote:Thanks for the info. I will wait and see how my temps do. Right now they are about 20c at idle with default settings. When I run Prime95 they go to about 60c which I believe will be too high. I guess I expected better with the H50.

That does seem high ,,, even with the H50. That is stock clocks right ???? I think many were getting that (60degs load) @ 4.2ghz on the same CPU.

I would re-check the contact points and use some high quality paste ( if you have not already smile )

Make sure the head is under the plastic retainers on the H50. You have to turn it degrees as you know. The screw that baby down. Only hand tight though.

Took me a while to get me setup right. My best move was using Artic silver MX-3 paste. Dropped 5 degs of in general. Im hoping a couple of Noctuas will also help.

Good luck mate.


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Re: New Upgrade

Post by 4hams on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:45 am

I thought the X6 1090T ran cooler than the I7's? What method did you use to apply the thermal paste Bob? For me the best method has been a drop right in the center of the CPU about the size of a grain of rice then attach the cooler trying to use even pressure all the way around when installing.
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by bob2701 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:20 am

I used the paste that came with the H50. Most of the reviews said it was a very good paste so I left it on for the initial install. I have a tube of Artic Silver (not sure which version) to try later.
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Post by bob2701 on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:35 am

I have a tube of Artic Silver "Alumina", how does that stack up to the MX-3 paste?

McstylisT wrote:Took me a while to get me setup right. My best move was using Artic silver MX-3 paste. Dropped 5 degs of in general. Im hoping a couple of Noctuas will also help.

Good luck mate.


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Post by bob2701 on Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:02 pm

I removed the thermal paste that came with the H50 and used Artic Silver Alumina and now my temps are down quite a bit. They are now running 18c at idle and 45c after 2 hours of prime95. Still at stock 3.2.

I did find that the heatsink might not have been seated all the way. The instructions say to hold up the bracket and insert the heatsink and turn it till it clicks. That is what I did the first time and it seemed to be correct but when I went to insert it the second time it would not turn. So I removed the bracket and made sure the clips were lined up and then installed the bracket and heatsink at the same time. It is now secured much better than the first time and I think my temps reflect that.

I'll keep my eye on the temps and if they stay as is I will try to get to 4.0 in a few days.
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by McstylisT on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:29 am

Thats a fine improvement bob. Much much better. :yourock:

I was sort of thinking it was just a contact issue over anything else.

I am sure you'll get an impressive result from that CPU being the AMD's flagship processor. Its indeed a quality one.

Once all clocked up if you get time check out some of the benchmark threads on the forum. Please give the baby a spin and lets see what these new line AMD's are made of.

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Re: New Upgrade

Post by 4hams on Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:25 am

Bob glad you got it sorted out! Those temps are way better.

And if ya get a chance i would love to see you do some of those benchmark tests Craig mentioned. It would be nice to compare with our i7's.
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Post by bob2701 on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:42 pm

I hope to get to it next week. I'll see what I can get out of it then post some results.
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Post by bob2701 on Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:31 pm

Very impressive Joel, but I thought temps of over 55c were not good? I see some of yours at full load were in the 70's.
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by McstylisT on Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:58 am

i7 Intel processors have a 100 degree working state temp. The AMD is sadly only 62degs.

My temps reach 80's when stressing fully with IBT.

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Re: New Upgrade

Post by 4hams on Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:22 am

Craig hit the nail on the head!
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Re: New Upgrade

Post by smduff on Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:41 am

AMD chips run cooler to begin with so no loss there it just means we don't have to get such elaborate cooling setups to OC to 4 GHz and beyond LOL.
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Post by 4hams on Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:43 am

1 true benefit of the AMD CPU's for sure!
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Post by bob2701 on Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:54 pm

smduff wrote:AMD chips run cooler to begin with so no loss there it just means we don't have to get such elaborate cooling setups to OC to 4 GHz and beyond LOL.

So what kind of temps do you get with the 1055T when running a stress test at 4 GHz?
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